hydraulic ram to lift engine hatch regal valanti 240 y

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hydraulic ram to lift engine hatch regal valanti 240 y

Postby vinnie » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:40 pm

hi can anyone help with problem I have ? when lifting hatch to gain access to engine hydraulic ram seems to jam initially and I have to disconnect the ram from the hatch manually by putting my hand in the inspection hatch and pulling the pin.The ram then works freely and continues to work when reconnected.However when left for a week or so without use same thing happens again,any suggestions?
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Re: hydraulic ram to lift engine hatch regal valanti 240 y

Postby mikee » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:41 pm

Just a guess here. Regal did not wire the circuit correctly. They exceeded the voltage drop and the electric motor does not lift the hatch. On my boat, Valanti 260, the engine hatch wiring was feed this way. 2 gauge wire from the batteries to the battery switch (4-6'), 6' of 8 gauge wire to the cabin DC panel, 16' of wire to protective switch located by the transom door, about 18-20' of wire to the helm switch, then about 25' to the electric motor. The negative wire actually used the engine harness wiring (12-14 gauge) to get up to the helm. From the helm switch they used what seems to be 12-14 gauge wire to go to the ram. My guess is that on a good day with a fully charge battery, the electric motor sees less than 10 volts.
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Re: hydraulic ram to lift engine hatch regal valanti 240 y

Postby PowerOfTwo » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:23 am

Is the motor power coming directly from the switches? I'd have thought there would be a relay somewhere and the switches would just be low power signal lines...
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Re: hydraulic ram to lift engine hatch regal valanti 240 y

Postby Miss Rachel » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:14 pm

Is it a pressurized hydraulic strut or a motorized lift?
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Re: hydraulic ram to lift engine hatch regal valanti 240 y

Postby mikee » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:48 pm

The OP has a 240 Valanti, while I have the 260. My guess is that they share much of the same technology for that period of time. The hatch actuator should be electric. The engine hatch is very heavy. So much on my boat that I couldn't pick up the hatch manualy when the pin was pulled. There are no relays. Round trip pos/neg wires are probably 80 feet. I'm surprised the cheesey safety switch the used for the transom door has held up this long. There are two ways to open the engine hatch as delivered from the factory. First is to have the engine running or on shore power so the battery voltage is over 14 volts so that ample voltage is applied to the electric motor. Second is to have someone push the switch while another person manually assited by lifting the hatch. I added a hydraulic/pressureized ram on the opposite side of the electric ram. I believe it's an 80 pound strut. It has made a big differernce. Sometime in the near future I will add relays which should solve the original engineering shortfall.
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Re: hydraulic ram to lift engine hatch regal valanti 240 y

Postby cigarhog » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:52 am

Do you have any pics of the installed engine hatch gas strut so I can see how to attach it to my 272. Do you have a brand and part or model number of the strut?

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Re: hydraulic ram to lift engine hatch regal valanti 240 y

Postby distinguished4x4 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:29 pm

i am having the same problem and have tried 4 diff gas lift supports 2 80lb and 2 125 lb and no help but can use a pole with one hand a lift with the other and get it up about 1' or so and it will lift its self
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Re: hydraulic ram to lift engine hatch regal valanti 240 y

Postby Shoreacres » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:17 pm

My 272 has the same problem. It's obviously the length of the wire as when I jump it directly from the battery that works great. I installed an 80-pound gas strut and it doesn't help. I should have just gone straight to the relays. Pretty sure that'll work.
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