Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

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Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby Muddy Blues » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:48 pm

I am close to pulling the trigger on a new 2800, and am seeking input on a few options. I am checking most of the boxes, so she will be well equipped. However, there are a few options that I am unsure of.

Dash gauges- From photos, I strongly prefer the base analog gauges, but I have not seen them in person. The only dash I have seen in person is the Garmin, which I really don't care for. Would I be making a mistake going with the analog gauges?

Engine - It really comes down to the VP 380 (6.2 liter) vs Merc 380 (8.2 liter). Both engines are about the same cost. In the past, the big block was always the engine of choice due to low end torque and durability. However, my dealer tells me the VP 380 outperforms the big blocks and almost every 2800 listed for sale has the VP V380. Does any have any experience or opinions on these engines?

Cockpit Heater - Since we are in a Northern climate, a cockpit heater might be nice in the spring and fall. However, I have no experience with these, and they don't seem to be very common. Hoping someone can comment pro of con on this option?

Thanks in advance for your input!
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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby onewhippedpuppy » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:57 pm

With that big and heavy of a boat I would think the big block torque would be a necessity. Personally I would go with the biggest and most powerful option if money isn't an issue. I can't recall meeting anyone who lamented getting a bigger engine, but have met plenty who wish they had gone bigger.
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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby cbsmith » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:21 pm

I would choose the 380 Volvo over the 380 Merc but I would get the 430 Volvo if it was an option.
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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby onewhippedpuppy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:14 am

By the way, congrats in advance on the new boat! As a fellow 2700 owner, I'll be interested to hear your feedback on the 2800.
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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby lg260ss » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:41 pm

The VP 380 6.2l is a Gen V GM engine
Aluminum construction
Variable Valve timing
Direct fuel injection
Closed cooling

The Merc 8.2l is made by Merc and is more of an old school large displacement cast iron engine

Both will get the job done, but I would prefer the newer tech that the Volvo uses. I have a Volvo 380 6.0l GM Gen IV which is the engine they used before the 6.2l Gen V became available to them. It is a great package in my 2013 28 Express.

The main reason you see most stock Regals with Volvos is because Merc (Brunswick) is a direct competitor of Regals.
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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby Muddy Blues » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:09 pm

onewhippedpuppy wrote:By the way, congrats in advance on the new boat!


Thanks!

onewhippedpuppy wrote:As a fellow 2700 owner, I'll be interested to hear your feedback on the 2800.


I am interested as well. :mrgreen:
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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby Muddy Blues » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:19 pm

I am warming up to the new VP motors, but I am wondering how they get the additional 50 HP in the 430 and why it costs nearly $12K more than the 380?
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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby Mburrus » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:25 pm

I bought my 2015 Regal 2800 new, and continue to love it. I’m sure you will, too. I have nearly 150 of fun-filled, problem-free hours on it now. To address your questions:

I got the analog instruments. I was concerned that the RegalVue option that was available then would quickly become obsolete. I think I made a good decision; I only wish the speedometer was GPS based.

I have the VP 380; it’s an unbelievable engine and it serves me well. With the size of crowds we entertain, I sometimes wish I’d gone with the 430, however. 90% of the time, the 380 is more than adequate.

I have no thoughts about the heater option.

Congrats on your near decision to buy a 2800; welcome to the family!

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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby lg260ss » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:38 am

Muddy Blues wrote:I am warming up to the new VP motors, but I am wondering how they get the additional 50 HP in the 430 and why it costs nearly $12K more than the 380?


The 50 HP comes mainly from the ECM tuning. Not worth the up charge for a few MPH at WOT. The 380 is essentially a de-tuned 430hp engine.
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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby lg260ss » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:39 am

Mburrus wrote:I bought my 2015 Regal 2800 new, and continue to love it. I’m sure you will, too. I have nearly 150 of fun-filled, problem-free hours on it now. To address your questions:

I got the analog instruments. I was concerned that the RegalVue option that was available then would quickly become obsolete. I think I made a good decision; I only wish the speedometer was GPS based.

I have the VP 380; it’s an unbelievable engine and it serves me well. With the size of crowds we entertain, I sometimes wish I’d gone with the 430, however. 90% of the time, the 380 is more than adequate.

I have no thoughts about the heater option.

Congrats on your near decision to buy a 2800; welcome to the family!

Mike


And you have the 6.0l like I do. The new 6.2 is even better.
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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby Muddy Blues » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:54 am

Update:

Dash gauges- After speaking with the dealer, I have decided on the Garmin 7610. I am slow to accept change, so I naturally resisted, but Digital dash boards are the future (am told several new 2019 Models will come only with a digital dash). The fact that this particular option is made by Garmin and is sold stand alone (i.e. should be sold in volume) went a long way greatly mitigates my concern of having an early adopter technology that is soon obsolete with no support.

Engine - Every boat I have owned in the past has had the largest engine available for that model. However, this time, I will go with the VP 380. I took one for a demo ride, and was pleased with the performance.

Cockpit Heater - Since we don't have a full isinglass enclosure, the benefit of these would be to people sitting over the vents with a blanket or towel to capture the warm air. This would be nice on a cool night cruise, but would simply not be used very often. Given my concerns about the heater potentially taking up valuable storage space (ducts work, hoses, etc.), adding weight, and adding to the maintenance list, I am going to skip this option.
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Re: Ordering Boat (2800) - Seeking Input On Options

Postby Rpontual » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:52 pm

My previous boat had mechanical gauges, my new one has all digital gauges. I even like the digital gauges, but I dislike the fact that the way I am configured I share the screen with other activities (map, autopilot, etc).

I recommend you to have a screen dedicated to gauges, even if the screen has to be smaller than the one used for charting. The "screen overload" is a bit annoying.
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