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Purchasing Advice

Postby Waggyone » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:14 pm

Hello,
I'm looking at purchasing a 2016 1900 ES. The price is great but I have a question about the engine it is a Volvo Penta V6-200 with SX drive with 450 hours. It was used in a rental fleet in a fresh water lake. What sort of life so these engines have? The company has regular maintenance records for the boat. The price is great. Advice?
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Re: Purchasing Advice

Postby cbsmith » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:53 pm

That is a lot of hours for a boat that old. The average boat probably gets less than 50 hours per year, most likely around 30 hours per year so 450 hours is equivalent to about 10 years of use. And rental boats aren’t treated gently by the renters. They are usually driven hard and even though the maintenance was done there is still more wear and tear than a non-rental boat.

Things like warming the engine up before running, a proper break in, proper shifting of the outdrive, not running the engine with the drive trimmed up too much, and the amount of time at full throttle vs normal cruising speed.

It would have to be an unbelievable deal before I would buy a rental boat with 450 hours on it.
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Re: Purchasing Advice

Postby On Holiday » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:05 pm

Take a look at this thread regarding a rental purchase.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10628&hilit=rental+fleet
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Re: Purchasing Advice

Postby Mischief Managed » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:07 pm

Being a rental, it may have spent a long time at high RPM which accelerates engine wear and can beat the snot out of the hull. Make the seller show you the "time at RPM range" from the engine ECU. The ECU will be able to list hours at RPM range in 1000 RPM (or less) increments. Also, check for gel coat stress cracks around the windshield. The windshield won't flex like fiberglass and if the hull is takes a lot of pounding, the fiberglass will flex excessively around the windshield base cracking the gel coat.

If the engine has a ton of time over 5000 RPM and/or there are lots of stress cracks, I'd be wary...
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Re: Purchasing Advice

Postby Waggyone » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:15 pm

Assuming the ECU shows reasonable usage and the gelcoat on the windshield and the hull look to be in good order and a compression test comes out good. Is it worth a shot? Its for sale for 10k. How much would putting a new Volvo Penta v6-2oohp cost apprx? Is that the scariest/worst thing that could go wrong?
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Re: Purchasing Advice

Postby cbsmith » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:01 pm

Mischief Managed wrote:Being a rental, it may have spent a long time at high RPM which accelerates engine wear and can beat the snot out of the hull. Make the seller show you the "time at RPM range" from the engine ECU. The ECU will be able to list hours at RPM range in 1000 RPM (or less) increments. Also, check for gel coat stress cracks around the windshield. The windshield won't flex like fiberglass and if the hull is takes a lot of pounding, the fiberglass will flex excessively around the windshield base cracking the gel coat.

If the engine has a ton of time over 5000 RPM and/or there are lots of stress cracks, I'd be wary...


For the Volvo v6-200hp the wot range is 4400-4600 rpm so I would say anything over 4000rpm is high. Volvo recommends a cruising rom of about 3750 for the v6 engine.
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Re: Purchasing Advice

Postby Mischief Managed » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:16 pm

cbsmith wrote:
Mischief Managed wrote:Being a rental, it may have spent a long time at high RPM which accelerates engine wear and can beat the snot out of the hull. Make the seller show you the "time at RPM range" from the engine ECU. The ECU will be able to list hours at RPM range in 1000 RPM (or less) increments. Also, check for gel coat stress cracks around the windshield. The windshield won't flex like fiberglass and if the hull is takes a lot of pounding, the fiberglass will flex excessively around the windshield base cracking the gel coat.

If the engine has a ton of time over 5000 RPM and/or there are lots of stress cracks, I'd be wary...


For the Volvo v6-200hp the wot range is 4400-4600 rpm so I would say anything over 4000rpm is high. Volvo recommends a cruising rom of about 3750 for the v6 engine.


I was under the impression the variable valve timing V6s all went to 5800 RPM. See: http://www.volvopenta.com/marineleisure ... ation.html
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Re: Purchasing Advice

Postby cbsmith » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:13 pm

Mischief Managed wrote:
cbsmith wrote:
Mischief Managed wrote:Being a rental, it may have spent a long time at high RPM which accelerates engine wear and can beat the snot out of the hull. Make the seller show you the "time at RPM range" from the engine ECU. The ECU will be able to list hours at RPM range in 1000 RPM (or less) increments. Also, check for gel coat stress cracks around the windshield. The windshield won't flex like fiberglass and if the hull is takes a lot of pounding, the fiberglass will flex excessively around the windshield base cracking the gel coat.

If the engine has a ton of time over 5000 RPM and/or there are lots of stress cracks, I'd be wary...


For the Volvo v6-200hp the wot range is 4400-4600 rpm so I would say anything over 4000rpm is high. Volvo recommends a cruising rom of about 3750 for the v6 engine.


I was under the impression the variable valve timing V6s all went to 5800 RPM. See: http://www.volvopenta.com/marineleisure ... ation.html


The Gen 5 engines do but in 2016 there were a lot of boats still sold with the old 4.3 200hp and 225 hp. They had a 4600rpm or 4800rpm limit respectively. Given that it is a rental boat I would guess they went with the chespest engine they could fine.
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