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Success - J1939 to NMEA2000 on NON EVC Volvo Penta

PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:20 pm
by britsurf
Success - J1939 to NMEA2000 on NON EVC Volvo Penta
I was able to get engine data from my VP 300C (non EVC) to a new NMEA network on my 2014 Regal 28 express.
All this with minimal wiring, and no splicing.
Here's how it went:
Step 1: Convert existing Fusion wiring to N2k and connect to Garmin 741sx. Success! Can now control stereo from Garmin.
Step 2: Add J1939 adapter to engine and connect to N2k. Success! Thanks to the customer support at YachtD who walked me through it. Now have engine data on Garmin and can see N2k data on Fusion remotes.
1) Convert Fusion wiring to NMEA 2000 network.
- Fusion 700i stereo in cabin was connected to two Fusion nrx200i remotes (one at help, one at stern).
- Purchased Gamin N2K starter kit https://www.westmarine.com/buy/garmin-- ... --11246998
- Purchased Fusion wire CAB000852 from Amazon. This is the non-powered drop for Stereo to N2K.
Details: CABIN:
a) Removed Red cable from Fusion and replaced with CAB000852. (IMPORTANT! The red cable was previously there to power the remotes over the fusion network. Remove the red cable since the network is going to become a N2K network, with it’s own power source).
b) Connected existing T connector (T1) inline between to the new CAB000852.
c) Connected N2K terminator to T1
d) Added another T connector, T2 and connected it to T1. This will be where 12V DC will come in to power the backbone.
e) Connected the other end of T2 to another existing Fusion cable that ran from the cabin to the helm/dash/cockpit. This is the same cable as a N2k backbone or drop cable and will now become the forward part of the main N2k backbone.
f) Connected N2K Power cable to 12v power source. I used the radio feed from the 12v DC panel in the cabin, so that my Radio on/off breaker is also the breaker that will turn on/off the power to the N2k backbone. Then connected it to T2.
COCKPIT/DASH:
g) Added connector T4 and connected it to existing connector T3. T3 was already in place and connected to the Fusion NRX 200i remote in the cockpit/dash.
h) Added a drop cable and connected it from T4 to the NMEA 2000 port on the back of the Garmin display.

STERN
i) An existing cable ran from the helm to the stern of the boat where the other Fusion remote is located. By removing the speaker at the stern next to the stern remote, I was able to access the cable at the back of the remote. There was a T (T5) connecting the remote to the fusion cable (now working as a N2K cable) that ran from the stern to the dash. I added another T (T6) directly onto T5, and added a terminator to the end of T6.
j) Added Garmin drop cable to T6, and connected it to YachtD Gateway YDEG-04 device. I did not have to splice anything, but the wires going into the YachtD Gateway YDEG-04 device’s Deutsch connector (not the one on the engine) had to be popped out and placed back in a different order. It was very easy, only 4 wires involved, no splicing and no cutting. The team at YachtD sent me very specific instructions and made it as easy as changing a lightbulb.
Voila! Fired it all up, did a firmware update on the Gateway YDEG-04 device with an SD card, and all good to go.
Engine RPMs, hours, temp, pressure, and the fusion stereo all available through the garmin.

Re: Success - J1939 to NMEA2000 on NON EVC Volvo Penta

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:13 am
by tlovell
Hi. Very nice. That is just what I want to do to our 2014 28 Express. Very clever re-utilization of the existing Fusion network. Do you have any pictures of the installation process? Additionally have you considered connecting the VHF radio to the Garmin chart plotter (now truly a MFD)?
Thanks.
Tim

Re: Success - J1939 to NMEA2000 on NON EVC Volvo Penta

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:06 pm
by britsurf
Hi, yes I did take various pics along the way but they didn't turn out great. I am happy to take some more though. I had previously connected my Garmin VHF 100 to the GPS so that the VHF can get data for the DSC funvtion via the NMEA 0183 interface.

Let me know if you need help with the fusion to nmea conversion. The hardest part for me was tracing the wires so I didn't have to run new wires.

Re: Success - J1939 to NMEA2000 on NON EVC Volvo Penta

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:42 pm
by fuelish lifestyle
Thanks for the detailed info. I too set up a nmea2000 backbone on my 2015 28 express but I did not incorporate the fusion stereo. How did you run the cable from the helm to the fusion stereo in the cabin? Were you able to use the existing wire to pull the new cable in? Also I was unable to view rpms on the garmin. Was that a function in the firmware upgrade on the ydeg-04? All other functions worked as plug and play.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Thanks
Michael

Re: Success - J1939 to NMEA2000 on NON EVC Volvo Penta

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:28 am
by britsurf
Hi,
Yes, the firmware update on the ydeg-04 fixed the RPM issue. I also did a firmware upgrade on the fusion, just to be safe.

For the stereo, I incorporated the existing cable that runs from the cabin to the helm. No need to run new cables!
If you pull out the fridge, you will have easy access to the cables behind the stereo.
- Remove the red cable in the back of the Fusion, and replace it with the Garmin CAB 000852 cable. The CAB852 will connect the Fusion to your existing cable (CAB 000853-06) which runs from behind the fridge, through the breaker cabinet, along the starboard side of the boat and up into the helm. You can then just incorporate the Fusion wiring into the Y2K network by adding T's as needed to connect the remotes to the backbone.

Re: Success - J1939 to NMEA2000 on NON EVC Volvo Penta

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:15 am
by fuelish lifestyle
Great! Firmware upgrade took care of tach problem. Thanks for the info on the fusion, I have ordered the cable you specified and will install as soon as I receive it.
Thanks for saving me a lot of time and effort.
Enjoy the 2017 boating season...

Re: Success - J1939 to NMEA2000 on NON EVC Volvo Penta

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:00 pm
by derby
britsurf, can you provide the pin swaps you did to work with the Duetch connector? I'm getting ready to go forward with this and having this info would be a big help. Thanks!

Re: Success - J1939 to NMEA2000 on NON EVC Volvo Penta

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 3:54 pm
by derby
Got it all working today. It was a little different in my '16 28 Express...For my config, I had a UD650 instead of a 700i. The UD650's deliver power through a software switch in settings and the NMEA2000 cable that comes out the back is hardwired to the radio as well as black. So, you don't need the CAB000852 cable for these units since the radio's built-in is no longer powered, unless the software switch is on. Aside from that, I did need to change the pin configs on the Deutch connector to swap the power/ground with CAN Bus Hi/Lo. Easy to do. The YachtD came with the latest version (1.7) so didn't need to update that or anything.

All-in-All, easy to use and great that I could leverage the existing fusion (NMEA2K) wiring and just add some drops + T-connectors and Terminators. Now I just need to update my Garmin to the latest version which I'll do tomorrow.